Comments on: Tarzan VS Conan – A Competition of the Ages! http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/ Fitness Tips To Get Lean and Toned, Not Bulky! Thu, 09 Sep 2010 22:08:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: sean http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/comment-page-2/#comment-379659 sean Thu, 20 May 2010 22:00:28 +0000 http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/#comment-379659 Wrong Tarzan is supposed to be like 6'2" and like 210 lbs plus he is as fast/quick/agile as a cat he'd have to be to do what he does in all the books. read em!!! Wrong Tarzan is supposed to be like 6'2" and like 210 lbs plus he is as fast/quick/agile as a cat he'd have to be to do what he does in all the books. read em!!!

]]> By: donixa http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/comment-page-2/#comment-204161 donixa Tue, 26 May 2009 13:48:11 +0000 http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/#comment-204161 they guy in the video is amazing..... i just can not help my self why finally i'm able to understand the difference between gym-body and athletic-body only at the current age of 30. they guy in the video is amazing…..

i just can not help my self why finally i'm able to understand the difference between gym-body and athletic-body only at the current age of 30.

]]> By: James Eisler http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/comment-page-2/#comment-195602 James Eisler Wed, 06 May 2009 00:07:49 +0000 http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/#comment-195602 Agree with Anthony. If one were to ready any of Howard's books, you'd come away feeling that Conan looked more like Tarzan than not. Many stories involved Conan climbing sheer walls, etc., during his days as a thief. Also, in other stories, he was on extended hunting parties or traveling by foot, which would make it pretty hard to maintain the bloated muscle we saw on Schwarzenegger. Conan's transformation started with Frank Frazetta, who turned him into a massive barbarian on the covers of the old Lancer books. Fast forward a few years and artist Barry Smith first drew Conan as a muscular, but not massive sword & sworcery hero for Marvel Comics in the late 60s. It was when one of their great artists, John Buscema, took over that Conan was transformed Conan into a more massive character. While Neal Adams--who drew Tarzan and Batman for DC comics for years--tried to revamp Conan back into the character Howard had in mind, the miindset of Conan as a barbarian with 21" biceps had fans demanding the return of Buscema. And then, of course, the movie... Adams Conan: <a href="http://www.cronicasdacimeria.hpg.ig.com.br/images/Adams.gif" rel="nofollow">http://www.cronicasdacim.../Adams.gif</a> Adams Tarzan: <a href="http://www.blacklinefever.com/artists/nn-adams/NealAdamsTarzan.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.blacklinefever...NealAdamsTarzan.jpg</a> Agree with Anthony. If one were to ready any of Howard's books, you'd come away feeling that Conan looked more like Tarzan than not. Many stories involved Conan climbing sheer walls, etc., during his days as a thief. Also, in other stories, he was on extended hunting parties or traveling by foot, which would make it pretty hard to maintain the bloated muscle we saw on Schwarzenegger.

Conan's transformation started with Frank Frazetta, who turned him into a massive barbarian on the covers of the old Lancer books.

Fast forward a few years and artist Barry Smith first drew Conan as a muscular, but not massive sword & sworcery hero for Marvel Comics in the late 60s. It was when one of their great artists, John Buscema, took over that Conan was transformed Conan into a more massive character. While Neal Adams–who drew Tarzan and Batman for DC comics for years–tried to revamp Conan back into the character Howard had in mind, the miindset of Conan as a barbarian with 21" biceps had fans demanding the return of Buscema. And then, of course, the movie…

Adams Conan: http://www.cronicasdacim…/Adams.gif

Adams Tarzan:

http://www.blacklinefever…NealAdamsTarzan.jpg

]]> By: Anthony Bondioli http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/comment-page-2/#comment-179493 Anthony Bondioli Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:16:08 +0000 http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/#comment-179493 You make some good points. For the real Conan fans, though, it's important (and only fair) to note that this article describes the character as most people envision him today, thanks in large part to comic book and film versions of the past couple of decades. As Robert E. Howard described him, though, Conan of Cimmeria stood 6 feet, 2 inches tall, and weighed about 210 pounds. Although nobody was ever described as being stronger than him, there were other characters who were larger. His movements were powerfully athletic and cat-like, not like those of a bloated, bumbling bodybuilder. Conan and Tarzan, as originally described, are really quite similar, physically. You make some good points. For the real Conan fans, though, it's important (and only fair) to note that this article describes the character as most people envision him today, thanks in large part to comic book and film versions of the past couple of decades. As Robert E. Howard described him, though, Conan of Cimmeria stood 6 feet, 2 inches tall, and weighed about 210 pounds. Although nobody was ever described as being stronger than him, there were other characters who were larger. His movements were powerfully athletic and cat-like, not like those of a bloated, bumbling bodybuilder. Conan and Tarzan, as originally described, are really quite similar, physically.

]]> By: Tom Parker - Free Fitness Tips http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/comment-page-2/#comment-162965 Tom Parker - Free Fitness Tips Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:48:52 +0000 http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/#comment-162965 Good way to make your point about bodybuilding routines Rusty. However, I think the reason they are quite popular is that a lot of men struggle to build muscle. Whilst excess muscle is not attractive, when you are starting off with very little muscle the typical bodybuilding routine can be quite effective. Therefore, I do understand why it is so popular. I agree that once you have gained a bit of muscle you should start to think about mixing it up but when you are just getting started I wouldn't completely discount this type of routine. Good way to make your point about bodybuilding routines Rusty. However, I think the reason they are quite popular is that a lot of men struggle to build muscle. Whilst excess muscle is not attractive, when you are starting off with very little muscle the typical bodybuilding routine can be quite effective. Therefore, I do understand why it is so popular. I agree that once you have gained a bit of muscle you should start to think about mixing it up but when you are just getting started I wouldn't completely discount this type of routine.

]]> By: Al http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/comment-page-2/#comment-161429 Al Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:36:53 +0000 http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/#comment-161429 My co-workers swoon over him Daniel Craig. Though they did have that same debate if he was buff or not. With tuxedo on he looks slim and fit, some of my co-workers thought he was too thin. When he stepped out of the sea and was wearing those tight swim trunks you could definitly see he wasn't some slim chump, that's when they went crazy. It took some gratuitous amount of skin to convince my co-workers he was one really fit guy... Either that or they knew he was a ripped guy they just wanted to see him as naked as possible. My co-workers swoon over him Daniel Craig. Though they did have that same debate if he was buff or not. With tuxedo on he looks slim and fit, some of my co-workers thought he was too thin. When he stepped out of the sea and was wearing those tight swim trunks you could definitly see he wasn't some slim chump, that's when they went crazy. It took some gratuitous amount of skin to convince my co-workers he was one really fit guy…

Either that or they knew he was a ripped guy they just wanted to see him as naked as possible.

]]> By: admin http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/comment-page-2/#comment-161247 admin Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:58:44 +0000 http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/#comment-161247 <b>Al,</b> Brilliant comment. I completely agree. I see the same thing. This is especially true if a ultra-fit guy wears a long sleeve shirt. Typically a short sleeve shirt will show the crazy density of the arms and forearms really well, even if the guy is slim and fit. Daniel Craig in James Bond is a prime example. Looks slim in his size 42 tux, but then puts on a fitted black Polo and looks completely bad-ass. Rusty Al,

Brilliant comment. I completely agree. I see the same thing. This is especially true if a ultra-fit guy wears a long sleeve shirt. Typically a short sleeve shirt will show the crazy density of the arms and forearms really well, even if the guy is slim and fit. Daniel Craig in James Bond is a prime example. Looks slim in his size 42 tux, but then puts on a fitted black Polo and looks completely bad-ass.

Rusty

]]> By: Al http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/comment-page-2/#comment-160287 Al Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:54:43 +0000 http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/#comment-160287 Hey Rusty, I've been thinking a bit more and if you don't mind I would like to throw another 2 cents onto this discussion. I think the basic idea of this thread is that some people equate bigger=stronger when in fact you can be still "thin"=strong. I put "thin" in quotations because I think as a whole the fitness industry, muscle magazines, and what not try to make us believe that we have to be bigger to be stronger. Now "thin" is relative it basically means your smaller then the next biggest guy next to you. Now for example we got Bruce Lee, probally the most butt kickingest guys to ever walk the earth. You can read his biographies and see his interviews and even see sample records of his workout. In the absolute sense of strength he was really strong, not only for his weight but in general. So in the gym where the weight is clearly marked on the side of the machine or barbell or dumbell, you can't dispute someones strength, you can clearly see with your own 2 eyes. But hit the streets where we have to wear clothes (sorry still can't walk around naked showing off all your hard work:()Bruce would look absolutely normal. At worst you would call him a thin, freak, at best a average sized man. This is where bigger=bigger comes in. Since we can't walk around showing how defined or ripped we are, the only thing you have to go on for strength is size. Now you can't hide size, a really large guy would look like he could beat Bruce which could be further from the truth. Now if I asked you if you could be twice as strong but only 5% bigger or twice as big but 10% stronger which one would you choose, your mass being all muscle no fat? Now most people would take the former choice but these are 2 very extreme choices. I wish I could quote or tell the source of the study (I read it in some health section of a newspaper a while ago) but it was found thru research that most males underestimate size. When shown before and after pictures of the same subject 5 pounds heavier most males would say the subject was 10-20 lbs heavier instead of 5 lbs. It's ingrained in our heads that we need to be bigger, a 5 lbs weight gain ain't good enough, 20 pounds would be prefered. You want to gain the weight just for the sake of gaining the weight. I think we have to break this mindset and think we can be the same size and stronger, that you don't need to think bigger=stronger. I'm not holding my breath though, this way of thinking doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon. Al Hey Rusty,

I've been thinking a bit more and if you don't mind I would like to throw another 2 cents onto this discussion.

I think the basic idea of this thread is that some people equate bigger=stronger when in fact you can be still "thin"=strong. I put "thin" in quotations because I think as a whole the fitness industry, muscle magazines, and what not try to make us believe that we have to be bigger to be stronger. Now "thin" is relative it basically means your smaller then the next biggest guy next to you.

Now for example we got Bruce Lee, probally the most butt kickingest guys to ever walk the earth. You can read his biographies and see his interviews and even see sample records of his workout. In the absolute sense of strength he was really strong, not only for his weight but in general. So in the gym where the weight is clearly marked on the side of the machine or barbell or dumbell, you can't dispute someones strength, you can clearly see with your own 2 eyes.

But hit the streets where we have to wear clothes (sorry still can't walk around naked showing off all your hard work:()Bruce would look absolutely normal. At worst you would call him a thin, freak, at best a average sized man. This is where bigger=bigger comes in. Since we can't walk around showing how defined or ripped we are, the only thing you have to go on for strength is size. Now you can't hide size, a really large guy would look like he could beat Bruce which could be further from the truth.

Now if I asked you if you could be twice as strong but only 5% bigger or twice as big but 10% stronger which one would you choose, your mass being all muscle no fat? Now most people would take the former choice but these are 2 very extreme choices. I wish I could quote or tell the source of the study (I read it in some health section of a newspaper a while ago) but it was found thru research that most males underestimate size. When shown before and after pictures of the same subject 5 pounds heavier most males would say the subject was 10-20 lbs heavier instead of 5 lbs. It's ingrained in our heads that we need to be bigger, a 5 lbs weight gain ain't good enough, 20 pounds would be prefered. You want to gain the weight just for the sake of gaining the weight.

I think we have to break this mindset and think we can be the same size and stronger, that you don't need to think bigger=stronger. I'm not holding my breath though, this way of thinking doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon.

Al

]]> By: admin http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/comment-page-2/#comment-159342 admin Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:19:51 +0000 http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/#comment-159342 <b>Micheal,</b> Yeah, there are exceptions to every rule. That is certain. <b>djppr,</b> That is the last fat to lose for most guys. You just have to focusing on losing fat in general and that will go. It does take a bit of time and patience to lose that last little bit of fat. Also, you will most likely have to get lighter than you think to accomplish this. <b>Kane,</b> Thanks for commenting on the site. I love hearing from people who are getting good results. As far as HGH supplements go and injections. I don't inject anything into my body. I realize that some people with advanced diabetes and other issues have no choice. People are always looking for a shortcut. The supplements really don't work (the injections do, but that is nuts in my opinion). Like you said, people should stick with intense intervals, circuits, HIIT, etc. to get the job done. I haven't seen the hundred pushup site, but I'm a big fan of bodyweight exercises. <b>Kyle,</b> Well, he may be a bit bigger, but Frank Zane who was about the same height competed at 180 (and Tarzan looks a little more sleek than Frank Zane in this picutre with smaller legs and back). Guys with really low body fat wind up a lot lighter than they look..but like you said, maybe he is slightly heavier than what I projected. It is a fun converation either way. <b>Eric,</b> You make your case well. I always forget about "magic". Magic is much more powerful then roids. I keep changing my mind between Conan and Tarzan. Is Tarzan allowed to summon his friends of the jungle, because Tarzan would have a tough time with a Lion! <b>Anthony,</b> It is cool if guys want to get bigger. I just started this site for the people who would rather focus on being healthy, looking outstanding in a swimsuit and being able to acheive a hip and stylish look (like the men and women in a Bond movie). When a guy or girl gets too muscular, they send off an cheesy vibe that makes it look like they are trying too hard. Instead of having a sexy or nice body, people think "gym body". <b>Yavor,</b> Vince is one of the few "bodybuilding guys" I agree with. Good link. <b>Baz,</b> I based his weight off of Frank Zane. A lean bodybuilder around the same height who competed at 180. To me, Tarzan has less mass on his legs and back than Frank Zane. Tarzan also had a really small looking frame and slim build, even though he looks muscular. If he was 220, he would have a thicker torso and bigger frame. <b>Craig</b> I answered it for you over on the How Much Water post. Thanks for reading and commenting. You will lose that last little bit of weight. It takes time. <b>Freezinghot,</b> Eat Stop Eat will certainly help you get lean. You sound like you are working out hard as well, so this shouldn't be a problem. Duane Johnson (The Rock) is 1/2 Samoan and recently leaned out and lost a considerable amount of mass. He looks great now. If you are part Samoan you will probably wind up being heavier than guys with a smaller frame. You really just want to look slim for your frame size. For instance, The Rock is heavier than Brad Pitt, but they both have the slim and lean look. I hope that makes sense! <b>joseff,</b> For me, parkour is definitely a "spectator sport"...those guys are nuts! <b>semi-annoyed,</b> Cool to express your opinion. I didn't mean to insinuate that all bodybuilders use roids, but Arnold certainly did when he played Conan. Also, their are some bodybuilders who can run, but many look awkward when simply walking. I would say that you and your friends are an exception to the rule...and running a mile in 6:15 is certainly a respectable time. <b>Mike,</b> Thanks for rubbing it in! I did want to point out one thing...in that picture it looks like margarine has a reach advantage. For those who don't know what the heck we are talking about click on Mike's name...it will take you to a killer post he did on butter vs margarine and other natural foods vs fake foods. Rusty Micheal,

Yeah, there are exceptions to every rule. That is certain.

djppr,

That is the last fat to lose for most guys. You just have to focusing on losing fat in general and that will go. It does take a bit of time and patience to lose that last little bit of fat. Also, you will most likely have to get lighter than you think to accomplish this.

Kane,

Thanks for commenting on the site. I love hearing from people who are getting good results. As far as HGH supplements go and injections. I don't inject anything into my body. I realize that some people with advanced diabetes and other issues have no choice. People are always looking for a shortcut. The supplements really don't work (the injections do, but that is nuts in my opinion). Like you said, people should stick with intense intervals, circuits, HIIT, etc. to get the job done. I haven't seen the hundred pushup site, but I'm a big fan of bodyweight exercises.

Kyle,

Well, he may be a bit bigger, but Frank Zane who was about the same height competed at 180 (and Tarzan looks a little more sleek than Frank Zane in this picutre with smaller legs and back). Guys with really low body fat wind up a lot lighter than they look..but like you said, maybe he is slightly heavier than what I projected. It is a fun converation either way.

Eric,

You make your case well. I always forget about "magic". Magic is much more powerful then roids. I keep changing my mind between Conan and Tarzan. Is Tarzan allowed to summon his friends of the jungle, because Tarzan would have a tough time with a Lion!

Anthony,

It is cool if guys want to get bigger. I just started this site for the people who would rather focus on being healthy, looking outstanding in a swimsuit and being able to acheive a hip and stylish look (like the men and women in a Bond movie). When a guy or girl gets too muscular, they send off an cheesy vibe that makes it look like they are trying too hard. Instead of having a sexy or nice body, people think "gym body".

Yavor,

Vince is one of the few "bodybuilding guys" I agree with. Good link.

Baz,

I based his weight off of Frank Zane. A lean bodybuilder around the same height who competed at 180. To me, Tarzan has less mass on his legs and back than Frank Zane. Tarzan also had a really small looking frame and slim build, even though he looks muscular. If he was 220, he would have a thicker torso and bigger frame.

Craig

I answered it for you over on the How Much Water post. Thanks for reading and commenting. You will lose that last little bit of weight. It takes time.

Freezinghot,

Eat Stop Eat will certainly help you get lean. You sound like you are working out hard as well, so this shouldn't be a problem. Duane Johnson (The Rock) is 1/2 Samoan and recently leaned out and lost a considerable amount of mass. He looks great now. If you are part Samoan you will probably wind up being heavier than guys with a smaller frame. You really just want to look slim for your frame size. For instance, The Rock is heavier than Brad Pitt, but they both have the slim and lean look. I hope that makes sense!

joseff,

For me, parkour is definitely a "spectator sport"…those guys are nuts!

semi-annoyed,

Cool to express your opinion. I didn't mean to insinuate that all bodybuilders use roids, but Arnold certainly did when he played Conan. Also, their are some bodybuilders who can run, but many look awkward when simply walking. I would say that you and your friends are an exception to the rule…and running a mile in 6:15 is certainly a respectable time.

Mike,

Thanks for rubbing it in! I did want to point out one thing…in that picture it looks like margarine has a reach advantage. For those who don't know what the heck we are talking about click on Mike's name…it will take you to a killer post he did on butter vs margarine and other natural foods vs fake foods.

Rusty

]]> By: Mike OD - LifeSpotlight http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/comment-page-2/#comment-159329 Mike OD - LifeSpotlight Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:48:07 +0000 http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/#comment-159329 Yes I agree....our butter vs margarine picture is much cooler. :) Yes I agree….our butter vs margarine picture is much cooler. :)

]]> By: Semi-annoyed http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-158845 Semi-annoyed Sun, 15 Mar 2009 08:04:44 +0000 http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/#comment-158845 Though I see the point you are trying to illustrate by using two colorful figures both of different training types and conditioning, the way you illustrated it is extremely ignorant. I pursue bodybuilding with a fervor, but am not weighed down by so called "excessive muscles". Several of my natural bodybuilding friends who I may sometimes train with have a mile time ranging from 7:15 to 5:45, and my personal best is currently 6:15. Many people also follow the stereotype that we can not even touch our backsides, this is also not true. The "juicing" comment, was also an insult, a lot of us, follow strict diet plans and training regiments, all without the use of roids. Not all bodybuilders resort to such measures to reach their goals. This comment was not intended as an attack on your article but merely to show both sides of the story. Though I see the point you are trying to illustrate by using two colorful figures both of different training types and conditioning, the way you illustrated it is extremely ignorant. I pursue bodybuilding with a fervor, but am not weighed down by so called "excessive muscles". Several of my natural bodybuilding friends who I may sometimes train with have a mile time ranging from 7:15 to 5:45, and my personal best is currently 6:15. Many people also follow the stereotype that we can not even touch our backsides, this is also not true. The "juicing" comment, was also an insult, a lot of us, follow strict diet plans and training regiments, all without the use of roids. Not all bodybuilders resort to such measures to reach their goals. This comment was not intended as an attack on your article but merely to show both sides of the story.

]]> By: joseff http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-158374 joseff Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:33:14 +0000 http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/#comment-158374 Hey Rusty, great post, totally agree with this post, what is the point in being strong, if you cant move to use it. Have you heard of parkour or free running? Thats a very good example of functional fitness http://www.urbanfreeflow.com/ hope you find it informative. Hey Rusty, great post, totally agree with this post, what is the point in being strong, if you cant move to use it. Have you heard of parkour or free running? Thats a very good example of functional fitness http://www.urbanfreeflow.com/ hope you find it informative.

]]> By: Freezinghot http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-158244 Freezinghot Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:05:25 +0000 http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/#comment-158244 Also am following Antonio Sabatos book no excuses, he uses supersets when weight training to get the heart rate up, a lot like it in a way but he never did cardio after as his workout which is hard enough. I do HIIT cardio after my workout as I want quicker results. Patrick Also am following Antonio Sabatos book no excuses, he uses supersets when weight training to get the heart rate up, a lot like it in a way but he never did cardio after as his workout which is hard enough. I do HIIT cardio after my workout as I want quicker results.

Patrick

]]> By: Freezinghot http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-158224 Freezinghot Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:27:26 +0000 http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/#comment-158224 Hi All My first post here on black book. I am a 37 year old from New Zealand. I ordered eat stop eat online and have followed the adice and have fasted for 2 days this week and I can honestly say that it was not as hard as I thought it would be. You just have to dicipline yourself to doing it, hopefully it will have the desired effect on my body fat. Also have started doing HIIT in my cardio, I did 35min per day this week and will look to get up to 50min in the coming months when my body adjusts to the stress. I am looking to get as lean as possible, I am half samoan so weight come on easily for me, I just have to look at food and I gain weight but when I get lean my body looks soooo much better, but it is hard to get, I am just a little thick at present. Will eat stop eat help me to lean out, I hate the bulky look and it looks tacky in clothes. I am currently 102kgs and my target is 85kg which is good for my height so as you can see I have a way to go but feeling more confident by the day. Cheers Patrick Hi All

My first post here on black book. I am a 37 year old from New Zealand. I ordered eat stop eat online and have followed the adice and have fasted for 2 days this week and I can honestly say that it was not as hard as I thought it would be. You just have to dicipline yourself to doing it, hopefully it will have the desired effect on my body fat. Also have started doing HIIT in my cardio, I did 35min per day this week and will look to get up to 50min in the coming months when my body adjusts to the stress.

I am looking to get as lean as possible, I am half samoan so weight come on easily for me, I just have to look at food and I gain weight but when I get lean my body looks soooo much better, but it is hard to get, I am just a little thick at present.

Will eat stop eat help me to lean out, I hate the bulky look and it looks tacky in clothes. I am currently 102kgs and my target is 85kg which is good for my height so as you can see I have a way to go but feeling more confident by the day.

Cheers
Patrick

]]> By: craig http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-157966 craig Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:56:18 +0000 http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/#comment-157966 Hi Rusty, I think I'm addicted to your site- really great info. Anyway...I'll try to be brief. I've always been pretty slim- (I don't mind the look) usually around 155-160 lbs at 5'11" (22 yrs old), but I'm going to be spending the summer in L.A. so I want to get pretty tone and to a really low body fat %. Currently I'm about 144 lbs - this is after a month of low carb/higher protein/healthy eating and cardio exercise 3-4 times/wk; I also do bodyweight training like pushups (and pushup variations), sit ups, dips, planks, etc. (I don't have access to a "weight room", but I think I can achieve results with these). I'm also starting to incorporate some HIIT into my workouts, taking 150mg of caffeine before, and am also starting to exercise on an empty stomach. So I've had great results so far- lost a lot of belly fat and back down to a 30 inch waist like high school. But I have extremely stubborn fat deposits on my sides/lower back and some lower abdominal fat- keep in mind I'm at 144 lbs. My diet/workout may be starting to plateau, but I'm not sure if this is the case- I think those areas are just really stubborn- they've been that way ever since I can remember. I've just started consuming a protein shake after my workouts- (I don't want to lose much more weight if any- I'd like a little more muscle tone but that's about it.) I'd rather not take a week off either as I don't want to add any more fat to those areas especially. So my plan right now is to consume about 500 more calories that I have been for a couple weeks (I was at about a 1000 calories for the first two weeks of my diet, and the last two weeks around 1200-1500) to avoid over-doing the calorie deficit I've been on (and perhaps also avoid any plateau I MIGHT be on) and start doing SFP 3 times/wk. Then as April rolls around, I want to start eating really clean again- perhaps around 1200-1500 calories again- and continue with SFP, making sure to switch up my type of exercise- been doing jump rope, basketball, biking and will soon be varying that with tennis and running once it warms up here in Michigan. Whew....sorry for rambling... but how's that sound? Any suggestions or tips particular to my situation???? Thanks a lot man, really appreciate it. -craig Hi Rusty,

I think I'm addicted to your site- really great info. Anyway…I'll try to be brief. I've always been pretty slim- (I don't mind the look) usually around 155-160 lbs at 5'11" (22 yrs old), but I'm going to be spending the summer in L.A. so I want to get pretty tone and to a really low body fat %. Currently I'm about 144 lbs – this is after a month of low carb/higher protein/healthy eating and cardio exercise 3-4 times/wk; I also do bodyweight training like pushups (and pushup variations), sit ups, dips, planks, etc. (I don't have access to a "weight room", but I think I can achieve results with these). I'm also starting to incorporate some HIIT into my workouts, taking 150mg of caffeine before, and am also starting to exercise on an empty stomach.

So I've had great results so far- lost a lot of belly fat and back down to a 30 inch waist like high school. But I have extremely stubborn fat deposits on my sides/lower back and some lower abdominal fat- keep in mind I'm at 144 lbs. My diet/workout may be starting to plateau, but I'm not sure if this is the case- I think those areas are just really stubborn- they've been that way ever since I can remember. I've just started consuming a protein shake after my workouts- (I don't want to lose much more weight if any- I'd like a little more muscle tone but that's about it.) I'd rather not take a week off either as I don't want to add any more fat to those areas especially. So my plan right now is to consume about 500 more calories that I have been for a couple weeks (I was at about a 1000 calories for the first two weeks of my diet, and the last two weeks around 1200-1500) to avoid over-doing the calorie deficit I've been on (and perhaps also avoid any plateau I MIGHT be on) and start doing SFP 3 times/wk. Then as April rolls around, I want to start eating really clean again- perhaps around 1200-1500 calories again- and continue with SFP, making sure to switch up my type of exercise- been doing jump rope, basketball, biking and will soon be varying that with tennis and running once it warms up here in Michigan.

Whew….sorry for rambling… but how's that sound? Any suggestions or tips particular to my situation???? Thanks a lot man, really appreciate it.

-craig

]]> By: Baz http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-157847 Baz Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:42:59 +0000 http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/#comment-157847 Man that is definelty a post you wont see anywhere else (ever). Just wondering though you said tarzan was around 5'10 which is fantastic to hear because i am just under 6 foot myself but i thought 165lbs seemed a little low. I mean he looks amazing in that picture(an I'm a guy). I am a tad below 165lbs and look nothing like that. I know he is much leaner than i am in terms of body fat but i still would've guessed him to look around 100kg(220lbs) at least. How do figure he's that low? And what body fat do you estimate him to be at? If you're right about his height and weight than rusty you just made my day. I just got the urge to go and workout. Ps- I'll be printing the picture off and sticking it up on my wall for inspiration for whenever i feel lazy. Man that is definelty a post you wont see anywhere else (ever). Just wondering though you said tarzan was around 5'10 which is fantastic to hear because i am just under 6 foot myself but i thought 165lbs seemed a little low. I mean he looks amazing in that picture(an I'm a guy). I am a tad below 165lbs and look nothing like that. I know he is much leaner than i am in terms of body fat but i still would've guessed him to look around 100kg(220lbs) at least. How do figure he's that low? And what body fat do you estimate him to be at? If you're right about his height and weight than rusty you just made my day. I just got the urge to go and workout.

Ps- I'll be printing the picture off and sticking it up on my wall for inspiration for whenever i feel lazy.

]]> By: Yavor http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-157825 Yavor Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:00:39 +0000 http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/#comment-157825 Having excess body weight is one of the biggest mistakes guys make, the other one being not using the principle of progressive overload in their training. Bodybuilding guru Vince Gironda said nicely: Do you want to weigh more, or do you want a better body, more muscular, and more proportionate body. There is a big difference. Here is a nice article of his re this subject: http://www.ironguru.com/don-t-gain-weight-for-the-sake-of-it Yavor Having excess body weight is one of the biggest mistakes guys make, the other one being not using the principle of progressive overload in their training.

Bodybuilding guru Vince Gironda said nicely: Do you want to weigh more, or do you want a better body, more muscular, and more proportionate body. There is a big difference.

Here is a nice article of his re this subject:

http://www.ironguru.com/don-t-gain-weight-for-the-sake-of-it

Yavor

]]> By: Anthony http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-157804 Anthony Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:49:16 +0000 http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/#comment-157804 rusty you are immune from making a bad post. great job as always man. tarzan and the hollywood body is definitely the way to go. i feel sad when i hear my friends say "man i'm so big, but i gotta be bigger; its like an addiction" kudos to you for continually challenging and changing the outlook on fitness rusty you are immune from making a bad post. great job as always man. tarzan and the hollywood body is definitely the way to go. i feel sad when i hear my friends say "man i'm so big, but i gotta be bigger; its like an addiction"

kudos to you for continually challenging and changing the outlook on fitness

]]> By: Eric Komans http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-157754 Eric Komans Thu, 12 Mar 2009 02:35:39 +0000 http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/#comment-157754 I just look at track records to determine winner. Tarzan fights superintelligent gorilla men. Conan fights demons from hell and sorcerers. They both fight big cats and snakes, too. I say Conan. He's got Crom on his side. Who has Tarzan got? DISNEY? I add to this the fact that Conan is a war-trained badass (naval combat too), and Tarzan, again, fights things you find in a tree. Conan's not on juice, if anything, he's got residual magic ;) I just look at track records to determine winner.

Tarzan fights superintelligent gorilla men.

Conan fights demons from hell and sorcerers.

They both fight big cats and snakes, too.

I say Conan. He's got Crom on his side. Who has Tarzan got? DISNEY? I add to this the fact that Conan is a war-trained badass (naval combat too), and Tarzan, again, fights things you find in a tree.

Conan's not on juice, if anything, he's got residual magic ;)

]]> By: kyle http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-157729 kyle Thu, 12 Mar 2009 01:23:03 +0000 http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/tarzan-vs-conan-a-competition-of-the-ages/#comment-157729 Tarzan looks more like 6 1 210 pounds. looks at his legs and chest. A 160 pounder would never look like that. Tarzan looks more like 6 1 210 pounds. looks at his legs and chest. A 160 pounder would never look like that.

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